Former Air Force intelligence officer retired Maj. David Grusch testified before the House Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, claiming that the US government has been concealing a covert program dedicated to retrieving and reverse engineering unidentified flying objects (UFOs) or, as officially termed, unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs).
Grusch suggested that the US government has likely been aware of “non-human” activity since the 1930s, hinting at the possibility of extraterrestrial involvement. Although this claim has not been corroborated by other sources or any supporting documents.
He also said that the US military has been covertly operating a “multi-decade crash retrieval and reverse engineering program” without oversight.
“My testimony is based on information I have been given by individuals with a longstanding track record of legitimacy and service to this country — many of whom also shared compelling evidence in the form of photography, official documentation, and classified oral testimony,” Grusch said.
The Pentagon, through spokeswoman Sue Gough, denied any allegations of a coverup, saying that they have not found “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.”
According to the former intelligence officer, his revelations have turned him into a whistleblower, and he has faced retaliation for his actions. While he refrained from providing specific details due to an ongoing investigation, he expressed that the tactics used against him have been “very brutal and very unfortunate” both professionally and personally.
Two other witnesses were present at the hearing. Retired Navy Commander David Fravor and former Navy fighter pilot Ryan Graves described their encounters with unexplainable phenomena to the House Oversight subcommittee chaired by Rep. Glenn Grothman.
Unlike Grusch, the two pilots witnessed UAP activity firsthand. Graves, along with fellow service members, observed “dark gray or black cubes inside of a clear sphere” while in flight, and multiple times over a period of eight years. He also recounted the experience of Boeing contractors who witnessed a red “football field-sized” unidentified object in 2003.
“This object remained for about 45 seconds or so before darting off over the mountain,” he said. “There was a similar event within 24 hours later in the evening.”
Fravor, on the other hand, described his experience seeing a Tic Tac-shaped object flying above an otherwise calm see and shooting up to 80,000 feet, which is beyond the known limits of military aircraft. A part of this 2004 encounter, which Fravor had along with three other service members, was captured in a video that was released by the Pentagon to the public in 2020.
“I would like to say that the Tic Tac Object that we engaged in November 2004 was far superior to anything that we had at the time, have today, or are looking to develop in the next 10+ years,” Fravor added.
But contrary to what Giorgio Tsoukalos may believe, interest in UAPs has grown beyond the realm of extraterrestrial fascination, as both Democrats and Republicans consider them a national security concern. Worries have arisen that these sightings, often observed by pilots, might be linked to activities of US adversaries.
The hearing saw members from both parties seeking transparency and reporting systems to gain clarity on the UAP issue. Some lawmakers criticized the Pentagon for not releasing more information in a classified briefing or sharing images with the public.
“I take it that you’re arguing what we need is real transparency and reporting systems so we can get some clarity on what’s going on out there,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin.
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